Time triggers not operating anymore

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CasualSurveyor posted this 11 April 2014

The morning scenes are working but the evening scenes are not working.

My morning scenes are time triggered at 6:00am. My evening scenes are triggered at sunset -60 minutes.

I think the problem is that the software is not triggering on sunrise information.

I added a condition to the evening scenes, "before 6:00pm" but tonight the lights still did not come on automatically.

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Ryan-Scott posted this 11 April 2014

I have my evening lights triggered to come on -60 minutes before sunset. Sunset is 8:10pm where I live, and it is now 8:20pm and all the lights are off. The computer is turn on, the USB stick is active, and the Z-Wave network is running fine. I can manually activate the evening scenes but I don't understand why the automation is not happening.


Has this been a consistent occurrence? You might go to your options and enable extra scene data. That can usually provide hints about why a scene didn't (or did) trigger. This info will be written to logfile.txt.

CasualSurveyor posted this 11 April 2014

I don't know yet if it is consistent. My wife complained that the lights weren't coming on when I was traveling. For the past couple of nights it seemed kind of dark in the house so I manually turned on the lights, thinking that I had been impatient ahead of the normal -60 minutes before sunset. Tonight I am in my home theater and didn't notice that the lights never came on even after sunset. I will have to keep an eye on it now.

I do have Log Extra Scene Data enabled.

CasualSurveyor posted this 12 April 2014

The morning scenes are working but the evening scenes are not working.

My morning scenes are time triggered at 6:00am. My evening scenes are triggered at sunset -60 minutes.

I think the problem is that the software is not triggering on sunrise information.

I added a condition to the evening scenes, "before 6:00pm" but tonight the lights still did not come on automatically.

CasualSurveyor posted this 12 April 2014

I meant to say that the problem seems to be that the software is not triggering on sunSET information.

Ryan-Scott posted this 12 April 2014

I meant to say that the problem seems to be that the software is not triggering on sunSET information.


Could you double-check to make sure your scene is enabled? I'm testing my sunset scene, but I'm pretty sure it's been working the last few days.

What does your logfile.txt report to you? There should be an entry around the sunset time saying if it fired or not-- and if not, it'll list out why.

CasualSurveyor posted this 12 April 2014

Verified that the scenes are enabled.

Here's the logfile on April 8:

4/8/2014 7:08:26 PM: SceneTrigger Evening Interior Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset event reached at Tuesday, April 08, 2014 7:08 PM. Running script activateScene.cs.
4/8/2014 7:08:26 PM: SceneTrigger Overnight Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset event reached at Tuesday, April 08, 2014 7:08 PM. Running script activateScene.cs.
4/8/2014 7:08:26 PM: SceneTrigger Dinner Hour Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset event reached at Tuesday, April 08, 2014 7:08 PM. Running script activateScene.cs.
4/8/2014 7:08:27 PM: SceneTrigger Evening Interior Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset timer for Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 PM.
4/8/2014 7:08:27 PM: SceneTrigger Overnight Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset timer for Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 PM.
4/8/2014 7:08:27 PM: SceneTrigger Dinner Hour Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset timer for Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 PM.

Then I added "Before 6:00 PM" but looking at the April 9 logfile (below), I think it doesn't work like I thought it did...dumb on my part. For some reason I thought it would cause the lights to turn on at sunset or before 6:00pm, but that is not how it works.

4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Dinner Hour Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset event reached at Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 PM. Running script activateScene.cs.
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Evening Interior Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset event reached at Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 PM. Running script activateScene.cs.
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Dinner Hour Lights - On: Script aborted because conditions were not met. Condition type TimeOfDay did not pass. Extra Info: |Before| |6:00 PM|
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Dinner Hour Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset timer for Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:10 PM.
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Overnight Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset event reached at Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 PM. Running script activateScene.cs.
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Overnight Lights - On: Script aborted because conditions were not met. Condition type TimeOfDay did not pass. Extra Info: |Before| |6:00 PM|
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Overnight Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset timer for Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:10 PM.
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Evening Interior Lights - On: Script aborted because conditions were not met. Condition type TimeOfDay did not pass. Extra Info: |Before| |6:00 PM|
4/9/2014 7:09:24 PM: SceneTrigger Evening Interior Lights - On: Scheduled Sunset timer for Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:10 PM.

Ryan-Scott posted this 12 April 2014

It does appear that InControl at least believes it's running the scene... we could test that theory by adding a script to your Pre-Script. For this to work, you'll need to setup an email server in the Tools/Options page.

Add a Pre-Script called "EmailSceneStatusReport.cs." This will cause an email to be sent to you when the script fires off. To test it, click the Activate Scene button and make sure you get the email... then tonight (or tomorrow if it's already too late) let me know if you get an email.

If you do get an email, then it means InControl is launching the scene properly and that for some reason, your devices aren't receiving/obeying the command.

One final note -- could you click the "Gear" icon next to each device and ensure that "No Change" is [b]un[/b]-checked?

CasualSurveyor posted this 15 April 2014

OK, I just had the chance tonight to add the Pre-Script. It is still before the activation time, so we might get to see if it works tonight.

I checked all of the Gear icons. "No Change" is unchecked on everything.

Thanks for the help, Ryan.

CasualSurveyor posted this 15 April 2014

Everything seems to be A-OK now. I received the email notifications and the lights came on tonight!

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